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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colins statement was on the money...as was yours, that this site is not about blame (that&#039;s good).  You also stated there have been many alternating party doninations since &quot;57&quot;. True.  We keep ousting one party for the other to rebuke them for their failures (it&#039;s cyclical).  WE need to fix the problem, and it&#039;s not the politicians...it&#039;s the democratic method that we&#039;ve installed 200+ years ago that hasn&#039;t evolved.  Wipe the slate clean and think about how YOU would correct the problem of administering fair demacracy from scratch...and you will find the answers are evident!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colins statement was on the money&#8230;as was yours, that this site is not about blame (that&#8217;s good).  You also stated there have been many alternating party doninations since &#8220;57&#8243;. True.  We keep ousting one party for the other to rebuke them for their failures (it&#8217;s cyclical).  WE need to fix the problem, and it&#8217;s not the politicians&#8230;it&#8217;s the democratic method that we&#8217;ve installed 200+ years ago that hasn&#8217;t evolved.  Wipe the slate clean and think about how YOU would correct the problem of administering fair demacracy from scratch&#8230;and you will find the answers are evident!</p>
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		<title>By: M Colins</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1462</link>
		<dc:creator>M Colins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on that, both parties have used the same dodgy accounting trick of using the IOU in the empty Social Security Trust fund to help obscure the actual deficit.  I was trying to point out that in context of when this article appeared, the natural inclination for some of the commenters was to go after Bush. Well its 20 months later and Bush doesnt come of too badly by comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on that, both parties have used the same dodgy accounting trick of using the IOU in the empty Social Security Trust fund to help obscure the actual deficit.  I was trying to point out that in context of when this article appeared, the natural inclination for some of the commenters was to go after Bush. Well its 20 months later and Bush doesnt come of too badly by comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: geldpress</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1461</link>
		<dc:creator>geldpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, M Colins, this post is not intended to favor or blame any one party.  I blame the republicans and democrats equally and find them both equally irresponsible.  Look at the title of hte post again.  Not since 1957 has the United States had a real balanced budget.  There have been plenty of republican and democrat presidents and congress majorities since that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, M Colins, this post is not intended to favor or blame any one party.  I blame the republicans and democrats equally and find them both equally irresponsible.  Look at the title of hte post again.  Not since 1957 has the United States had a real balanced budget.  There have been plenty of republican and democrat presidents and congress majorities since that time.</p>
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		<title>By: M Colins</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>M Colins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting how these comments began in 2008 when it was very fashionable to indict Bush and the GOP for the growth of the deficit during his term. Now 20 months later, the Democrat brought in to &quot;fix&quot; Bushes mess has quadrupled that deficit and will have tripled the debt by the end of his term.

I continually stand amazed that the two latest tax reductions by Reagan and GW Bush directly and almost immediately resulted in economic recovery and increased tax revenue but the current custodians of the Presidency decide the best way to tackle the problem is to do exactly the opposite. To disastrous results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how these comments began in 2008 when it was very fashionable to indict Bush and the GOP for the growth of the deficit during his term. Now 20 months later, the Democrat brought in to &#8220;fix&#8221; Bushes mess has quadrupled that deficit and will have tripled the debt by the end of his term.</p>
<p>I continually stand amazed that the two latest tax reductions by Reagan and GW Bush directly and almost immediately resulted in economic recovery and increased tax revenue but the current custodians of the Presidency decide the best way to tackle the problem is to do exactly the opposite. To disastrous results.</p>
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		<title>By: geldpress</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1395</link>
		<dc:creator>geldpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you asked.  For starters, check out the 1981 study by the national commission on social security reform.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/reports/gspan.html

There have been many similar reports since then, and as I said, they all cost a lot of money, and they are all ignored.

Also, take a look at the history of the debt ceiling:
http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/united-states-debt-limit-joke/

We put so much emphasis on making laws that put an absolute high on the national debt.  In theory, it is like a credit limit on your own personal credit cards.  With the United States, however, every time we get within half a trillion or so of that ceiling, congress swiftly acts to vote on a few trillion dollar increase of that ceiling.  The last increase was just about a week ago.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/senate-approves-short-term-debt-ceiling-increase-2009-12-24

For other costly studies on runaway debt, just google for &quot;social security studies&quot; and grab yourself some strong coffee for a days worth of reading (and perhaps laughing and crying).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you asked.  For starters, check out the 1981 study by the national commission on social security reform.<br />
<a href="http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/reports/gspan.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/www.socialsecurity.gov');" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/reports/gspan.html</a></p>
<p>There have been many similar reports since then, and as I said, they all cost a lot of money, and they are all ignored.</p>
<p>Also, take a look at the history of the debt ceiling:<br />
<a href="http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/united-states-debt-limit-joke/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/united-states-debt-limit-joke/</a></p>
<p>We put so much emphasis on making laws that put an absolute high on the national debt.  In theory, it is like a credit limit on your own personal credit cards.  With the United States, however, every time we get within half a trillion or so of that ceiling, congress swiftly acts to vote on a few trillion dollar increase of that ceiling.  The last increase was just about a week ago.<br />
<a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/senate-approves-short-term-debt-ceiling-increase-2009-12-24" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/www.marketwatch.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketwatch.com/story/senate-approves-short-term-debt-ceiling-increase-2009-12-24</a></p>
<p>For other costly studies on runaway debt, just google for &#8220;social security studies&#8221; and grab yourself some strong coffee for a days worth of reading (and perhaps laughing and crying).</p>
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		<title>By: Private Worker</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1393</link>
		<dc:creator>Private Worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geld, we agree about the need to honest reporting.  You lose me when you say the US Govt has shelled out &quot;billions&quot; for studies and solutions.  What evidence do you have for that?  What are the best few resulting reports to read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geld, we agree about the need to honest reporting.  You lose me when you say the US Govt has shelled out &#8220;billions&#8221; for studies and solutions.  What evidence do you have for that?  What are the best few resulting reports to read?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herein lies the problem doesn&#039;t it.  The experts are not in charge.  Politicians are in charge...and the people have no conduit to change this.  The system is flawed.  

The train has crested the apex of the hill and is picking up momentum. It&#039;s on the downside to oblivion, but there are no brakes to stop it, or even slow it. 

I&#039;m not trying to be prophetic...I just see it as fact. Unaddressed, I see failure of our country&#039;s monetary system as inevitable (if left up to politicians).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herein lies the problem doesn&#8217;t it.  The experts are not in charge.  Politicians are in charge&#8230;and the people have no conduit to change this.  The system is flawed.  </p>
<p>The train has crested the apex of the hill and is picking up momentum. It&#8217;s on the downside to oblivion, but there are no brakes to stop it, or even slow it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be prophetic&#8230;I just see it as fact. Unaddressed, I see failure of our country&#8217;s monetary system as inevitable (if left up to politicians).</p>
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		<title>By: geldpress</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator>geldpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t claim to have the answers with exactly how to fix the fiscal mess we are in.  But at a minimum, we need to be honest about the way we report it, and the main stream media has to do a better job with calling foul on the government under reporting of the debt and deficits.  The whole intent of the original post was to show just how wrong the main stream media gets it - over and over again.  In fact, I have never once seen any main stream media source report accurate deficit or national debt numbers.

As for the long term solution for fixing the fiscal disaster, there are others way more qualified than me.  In fact, the United States government has commissioned dozens of consultancy organizations over the years to propose real solutions.  Our tax dollars have shelled out billions in national debt studies and solutions.  And then every time the summary reports are issued, they are promptly ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t claim to have the answers with exactly how to fix the fiscal mess we are in.  But at a minimum, we need to be honest about the way we report it, and the main stream media has to do a better job with calling foul on the government under reporting of the debt and deficits.  The whole intent of the original post was to show just how wrong the main stream media gets it &#8211; over and over again.  In fact, I have never once seen any main stream media source report accurate deficit or national debt numbers.</p>
<p>As for the long term solution for fixing the fiscal disaster, there are others way more qualified than me.  In fact, the United States government has commissioned dozens of consultancy organizations over the years to propose real solutions.  Our tax dollars have shelled out billions in national debt studies and solutions.  And then every time the summary reports are issued, they are promptly ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Private Worker</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>Private Worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Geldpress - I don&#039;t disagree with you about that.  I regret if it sounds like I was advocating inflation as a real solution!  To the contrary; in fact I was pointing out that even at best (in terms of budget balancing), it&#039;s really the same as defaulting on retirement benefits indirectly.

However, inflation is a traditional response which may indeed happen.

The problem is that no politician will be elected or stay in office on a platform of serious pain now to avoid collapse later.  Jimmy Carter tried to get the country to take conservation seriously, and many people resoundingly turned to Ronald Reagan who promised that the magic of the market would painlessly solve our problems.  Obama proposes to finance health care through efficiency savings (which may be hard to push through the political process and/or may not save as much as hoped) combined with letting the Bush tax cuts for the upper percentiles expire - ie: promising the majority very little pain.  And so on.

I do get that your intent is to awaken enough people to the need to take difficult measures now, rather than buy yet another promise that there&#039;s a magical way out which won&#039;t be very painful.  What else can one do?

Have you posted a proposal about how to spread around that serious pain you advocate?  What would it really look like on the ground?  It&#039;s clearly more than just postponing the carribean cruise and buying a cheaper car this year.  Does it mean dramatically raising taxes until the debt can be paid down?  Slashing social security?  Reducing the military budget?  Or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Geldpress &#8211; I don&#8217;t disagree with you about that.  I regret if it sounds like I was advocating inflation as a real solution!  To the contrary; in fact I was pointing out that even at best (in terms of budget balancing), it&#8217;s really the same as defaulting on retirement benefits indirectly.</p>
<p>However, inflation is a traditional response which may indeed happen.</p>
<p>The problem is that no politician will be elected or stay in office on a platform of serious pain now to avoid collapse later.  Jimmy Carter tried to get the country to take conservation seriously, and many people resoundingly turned to Ronald Reagan who promised that the magic of the market would painlessly solve our problems.  Obama proposes to finance health care through efficiency savings (which may be hard to push through the political process and/or may not save as much as hoped) combined with letting the Bush tax cuts for the upper percentiles expire &#8211; ie: promising the majority very little pain.  And so on.</p>
<p>I do get that your intent is to awaken enough people to the need to take difficult measures now, rather than buy yet another promise that there&#8217;s a magical way out which won&#8217;t be very painful.  What else can one do?</p>
<p>Have you posted a proposal about how to spread around that serious pain you advocate?  What would it really look like on the ground?  It&#8217;s clearly more than just postponing the carribean cruise and buying a cheaper car this year.  Does it mean dramatically raising taxes until the debt can be paid down?  Slashing social security?  Reducing the military budget?  Or what?</p>
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		<title>By: geldpress</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/07/us-budget-reporting-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1383</link>
		<dc:creator>geldpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one point on Private Worker&#039;s idea of inflation making the debt burden insignificant.  That can be true of household debt if that household is spending within their means and not running up more debt in parallel with inflation.  With government, unfortunately, since they are incapable of a real balanced budget, inflation will only exacerbate the problem.  

I think the solution is to work towards a long term sustainable, and REAL balanced budget.  And by REAL I mean a budget where the total government debt does not increase one single penny from year to year.  Painful?  Absolutely!  Necessary?  I used to think that we either need to face a little pain now as a country, or a severe pain in decades to come.  That time is over.   We need some serious pain now, rather than face an inevitable collapse sooner than people can fathom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one point on Private Worker&#8217;s idea of inflation making the debt burden insignificant.  That can be true of household debt if that household is spending within their means and not running up more debt in parallel with inflation.  With government, unfortunately, since they are incapable of a real balanced budget, inflation will only exacerbate the problem.  </p>
<p>I think the solution is to work towards a long term sustainable, and REAL balanced budget.  And by REAL I mean a budget where the total government debt does not increase one single penny from year to year.  Painful?  Absolutely!  Necessary?  I used to think that we either need to face a little pain now as a country, or a severe pain in decades to come.  That time is over.   We need some serious pain now, rather than face an inevitable collapse sooner than people can fathom.</p>
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