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	<title>Comments on: Seattle Housing &#8211; Microsoft Layoffs And Mortgage Walk Aways</title>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our congressman and the banks set a dangerous precedent and have lost the moral high ground necessary to our credit system. The banks made a terrible decision and rather than fail they asked for money from the government. They are breaking contracts left and right, albeit social contracts by taking the money.

Therefore, he should walk. This shouldn&#039;t affect taxpayers and it isn&#039;t his fault that it does.

I seriously doubt if it would have been clear to the public exactly what the risks were with the &quot;off balance sheet&quot; game the banks were playing, he probably owuldn&#039;t have borrowed the money in the first place. Most of us had no idea how inflated values were from this excess liquidity. 

So the real question is why wasn&#039;t this clear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our congressman and the banks set a dangerous precedent and have lost the moral high ground necessary to our credit system. The banks made a terrible decision and rather than fail they asked for money from the government. They are breaking contracts left and right, albeit social contracts by taking the money.</p>
<p>Therefore, he should walk. This shouldn&#8217;t affect taxpayers and it isn&#8217;t his fault that it does.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt if it would have been clear to the public exactly what the risks were with the &#8220;off balance sheet&#8221; game the banks were playing, he probably owuldn&#8217;t have borrowed the money in the first place. Most of us had no idea how inflated values were from this excess liquidity. </p>
<p>So the real question is why wasn&#8217;t this clear?</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the banker and homeowner deserve each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the banker and homeowner deserve each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark To Model Reason For Not Foreclosing &#124; Geldpress</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark To Model Reason For Not Foreclosing &#124; Geldpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] take, consider the case of Mr Microsoft, whose own foreclosure case (or lack thereof) was depicted in this article.  The value of Mr. Microsoft&#8217;s condo, according to recent listing and sales data, has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] take, consider the case of Mr Microsoft, whose own foreclosure case (or lack thereof) was depicted in this article.  The value of Mr. Microsoft&#8217;s condo, according to recent listing and sales data, has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Mine</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Mine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why so many of you blame the individual for our current housing market cluster F#$%. It&#039;s not Mr.MS fault housing prices went into free fall and it made more sense for him to walk away. Anger should be directed toward the policies that allow lenders to write loans with no liability for the loans outcome. 

Banks were happy to approve anyone with a pulse and why not they had very little skin in the deal. Banks wrote the loans with no obligation to hold any of them locally. Mortgages were sold, wrapped up as polished pieces of crap (CDO) and sold to foreign investors.  The banks got their money and sent the note down the line. Wall Street made a fortune selling these CDO’s to China and Europe. And these banks left China, Europe, you and me to pick up the pieces of our crappy investments we were sold as gold. The Banks pushed for relaxed lending standards so they could sell more of these packaged mortgages to investors; after all they were making a fortune off of them. 

The problems started when foreign investors stopped buying these packaged mortgages due to the growing default rate. Then our banks ended up stuck with these crap investments and the rest is history.

Who doesn’t dream of owning a home? When a bank approves your loan it gives validation that the applicant can afford the home. Why would a bank give a loan to someone if they couldn’t pay it back? Why direct compassion to a corporate monster and not your neighbor? It seems like we’ve all been turned against each other. Why protect the interest of companies so vigorously especially as the unscrupulous acts against consumers keep revealing themselves over and over again? 

Greed got all of us here, and blaming the poor guy that walks away from his TERRIBLE loan while exonerating the policies that allowed banks to have little consequence for writing these loans is madness. I tend to think that those who protect the interest of companies even at the detriment of their own well being are the same people who make decision based on ideology without having to actually think. Who speaks for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why so many of you blame the individual for our current housing market cluster F#$%. It&#8217;s not Mr.MS fault housing prices went into free fall and it made more sense for him to walk away. Anger should be directed toward the policies that allow lenders to write loans with no liability for the loans outcome. </p>
<p>Banks were happy to approve anyone with a pulse and why not they had very little skin in the deal. Banks wrote the loans with no obligation to hold any of them locally. Mortgages were sold, wrapped up as polished pieces of crap (CDO) and sold to foreign investors.  The banks got their money and sent the note down the line. Wall Street made a fortune selling these CDO’s to China and Europe. And these banks left China, Europe, you and me to pick up the pieces of our crappy investments we were sold as gold. The Banks pushed for relaxed lending standards so they could sell more of these packaged mortgages to investors; after all they were making a fortune off of them. </p>
<p>The problems started when foreign investors stopped buying these packaged mortgages due to the growing default rate. Then our banks ended up stuck with these crap investments and the rest is history.</p>
<p>Who doesn’t dream of owning a home? When a bank approves your loan it gives validation that the applicant can afford the home. Why would a bank give a loan to someone if they couldn’t pay it back? Why direct compassion to a corporate monster and not your neighbor? It seems like we’ve all been turned against each other. Why protect the interest of companies so vigorously especially as the unscrupulous acts against consumers keep revealing themselves over and over again? </p>
<p>Greed got all of us here, and blaming the poor guy that walks away from his TERRIBLE loan while exonerating the policies that allowed banks to have little consequence for writing these loans is madness. I tend to think that those who protect the interest of companies even at the detriment of their own well being are the same people who make decision based on ideology without having to actually think. Who speaks for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Microsoft Did Not Buy A McMansion &#124; Geldpress</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Microsoft Did Not Buy A McMansion &#124; Geldpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recent profile of &#8220;Mr. Microsoft&#8221; and his decision to walk away from his mortgage generated quite a stir.  Some were supportive, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. Microsoft vs Seattle Billy &#124; MAS o Menos</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Microsoft vs Seattle Billy &#124; MAS o Menos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] him contact with the Geldpress for an interview.  Why was Mr. Microsoft interviewed for the post Seattle Housing - Microsoft Layoffs and Mortgage Walk Aways?   Because he decided to stop paying his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] him contact with the Geldpress for an interview.  Why was Mr. Microsoft interviewed for the post Seattle Housing &#8211; Microsoft Layoffs and Mortgage Walk Aways?   Because he decided to stop paying his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Choose Foreclosure - The Case To Walk Away &#124; Geldpress</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Choose Foreclosure - The Case To Walk Away &#124; Geldpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] albeit controversial topic flooding the news today.  One recent Geldpress article recounting of a highly paid Microsoft employee&#8217;s intention to walk away stirred up heated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] albeit controversial topic flooding the news today.  One recent Geldpress article recounting of a highly paid Microsoft employee&#8217;s intention to walk away stirred up heated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly!  He broke a business commitment and his credit score will reflect what he did.  We shouldn&#039;t have called him a thief but still if everyone does that (walk away because of a bad investment decision), our interest rate would shoot up to cover the risk of default and in which affecting other people.

BTW, I don&#039;t know why our Congress men would vote yes on the bailout and that&#039;s not fair to use our money bailing out those people who made wrong decisions (wouldn&#039;t Mr. MS are one of them causing this bail out?).  There are many whys floating around but no answers.  And for the coming stimulus package, it is ripping off the middle class.  Why?  Because the tax refund is not proportional to the tax being paid.  So someone paid tax of $1000 would get same refund as who paid tax $10000.  Another why, the gov yearly tax revenue is about 2.4T, why don’t the gov just give full tax refund to everybody including every single co-operations instead of giving 8T to someone else?  Very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!  He broke a business commitment and his credit score will reflect what he did.  We shouldn&#8217;t have called him a thief but still if everyone does that (walk away because of a bad investment decision), our interest rate would shoot up to cover the risk of default and in which affecting other people.</p>
<p>BTW, I don&#8217;t know why our Congress men would vote yes on the bailout and that&#8217;s not fair to use our money bailing out those people who made wrong decisions (wouldn&#8217;t Mr. MS are one of them causing this bail out?).  There are many whys floating around but no answers.  And for the coming stimulus package, it is ripping off the middle class.  Why?  Because the tax refund is not proportional to the tax being paid.  So someone paid tax of $1000 would get same refund as who paid tax $10000.  Another why, the gov yearly tax revenue is about 2.4T, why don’t the gov just give full tax refund to everybody including every single co-operations instead of giving 8T to someone else?  Very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen. The guy broke a contract which is a business decision for him to make. Businesses do this all the time, but somehow when it&#039;s an individual making this decision, it turns into a moral issue.

He&#039;s doing the right thing for himself and his family. If you&#039;re paying that much each month for a property that&#039;s falling in value and probably will never recover in our lifetimes, then who&#039;s the idiot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen. The guy broke a contract which is a business decision for him to make. Businesses do this all the time, but somehow when it&#8217;s an individual making this decision, it turns into a moral issue.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s doing the right thing for himself and his family. If you&#8217;re paying that much each month for a property that&#8217;s falling in value and probably will never recover in our lifetimes, then who&#8217;s the idiot?</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://www.geldpress.com/2008/12/seattle-housing-microsoft-layoffs-and-mortgage-walk-aways/comment-page-1/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying that on the flood insurance. It&#039;s a bit crazy but I understand. I once had a house on the gulf coast - hurricane alley - but it wasn&#039;t in the floodplain and my flood insurance was $150/year. I guess all those people with condos (is it even on the ground floor?) in seattle were subsidizing the cost. And I did have a flood claim during that time - best insurance I ever got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying that on the flood insurance. It&#8217;s a bit crazy but I understand. I once had a house on the gulf coast &#8211; hurricane alley &#8211; but it wasn&#8217;t in the floodplain and my flood insurance was $150/year. I guess all those people with condos (is it even on the ground floor?) in seattle were subsidizing the cost. And I did have a flood claim during that time &#8211; best insurance I ever got.</p>
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